Useless Gesture / EBR Day

Kim du Toit
February 8, 2008
6:34 AM CDT

Well now… it appears that the Gummint is going to give us each a tax “refund” (i.e. returning some of the money taken from us at gunpoint) to the tune of $600 or so.

Look… if that money is that stands between you and starvation, or keeping your car, or paying your kid’s tuition, or anything like that, then by all means use it for that fine purpose.

If, however, it can be classified as “found money”, then I would suggest that the Nation of Riflemen use it for the best purpose in the world:

To buy an assault rifle, and ammo.

Was it only a week or so ago when I discussed buying an Evil Black Rifle (EBR)?

Kinda timely, huh?

Looking back at that post, I see that I came down heavily on the AK-47, because, and I quote:

To the GFWs, all guns are fearful, but AKs are cause for PSH (pants-shitting hysteria).

My opinion has not changed (and nor has my 1a. choice the SKS).

Myself, I have already arranged for a private purchase of one of these excellent pieces, and it remains only for me to pick it up, once the “refund” check arrives.

Of course, you don’t have to buy an AK—if you’d prefer to use the money as part of the purchase of an AR-15 or PTR, for example, then so much the better.

Let’s see if we can get a million more eeevil assault rifles into circulation this year.

One last thing: I don’t want this to step on Buy A Gun (BAG) Day, which, as any fule kno, is on April 15th (aka. Tax Deadline Day). I suspect the Gummint checks will arrive long before then, but, of course, if they don’t, then BAG Day will take place as usual.

If the checks arrive earlier, then watch this space for the announcement of the “official” EBR Day.

Tell all your friends, pass the word, and start picking out YOUR favorite EBR now.

Comments

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When you pick up your AK-47 (aka, “EBR"), be sure to ask the dealer to throw in at least one 5-round magazine.  While evil 30-round and 40-round banana-mags look cooooool, they’re a royal PITA when it comes to sighting in.  It’s durned near impossible to bench-rest an AK or other EBR with that loooong mag sticking out the bottom.  (Personally I’ve found that I prefer the Hungarian 20-round mags for reliability and convenience, and I may regret it during a zombie apocalypse, but that’s just me.)

Another good reason is that in a lot of states, hunting is verboten with a more-than-5-round magazine (although they do make exceptions, at least here in Minnesnowta, for mil-surp rifles that have integral magazines that hold more, although you’re not legal to load more, like a SMLE or SKS).

Fascinate a Fudd...hunt with your EBR.

Blackwing1 | 2/8/2008 06:53 AM CDT | #112222


Get out of my head Kim. . . Just last night I was thinking that the perfect use for $600.00 would be a new AK. Well, that or $600.00 worth of ammunition.

Garm | 2/8/2008 06:56 AM CDT | #112223


I’ve been thinking about those AK 20 rounders. You say they’re pretty good, eh? Some of those, and a LOT of ammo for my STG2000. Maybe one of those AK pistols! Yeah. PSH? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

cmblake6 | 2/8/2008 06:59 AM CDT | #112224


I agree whole heartedly, Kim! In fact, I’m planning on “doubling up” over the next couple of months. I quit smoking a couple of weeks ago (finally) - and decided to put the cash I normally would have spent on tobacco into a EBR fund Already have the WASR10 picked out, and should be making the purchase in a couple of months. I’ve yet to decide where the my BAG day cash will go....

Possibly another SKS to keep in original condition? [I tapco’ed my current SKS] Maybe a 75 round drum magazine for the WASR, and a bulk 7.62 ammo buy? The drum does have the high sphincter factor among the sheeple, ya know

Who knows? Planning it it half the fun!

Paladin | 2/8/2008 07:00 AM CDT | #112225


I wish. Too many damned bills to pay.

og | 2/8/2008 07:04 AM CDT | #112227


I’m IN!!!!

WOOHOO!!!

TN Daily Carrier | 2/8/2008 07:10 AM CDT | #112228


I’m keeping my eye open for something with “armor piercing ammo” that I can “spray fire from the hip”. 

Rustmeister | 2/8/2008 07:15 AM CDT | #112231


Does an SVT-40 count.  I don’t have one, but I want one.  I do have 2 AR’s and 2 AK’s and a Russian SKS.  So, even though it’s wood and steel, can I have ans SVT-40?  Please?

1911Man | 2/8/2008 07:18 AM CDT | #112232


Hope you all enjoy the guns I am “donating” to. I am one of the bastards that only gets to pay but not receive. The whole thing is a crock of S..t

louis | 2/8/2008 07:22 AM CDT | #112233


News this morning reported that eligibility is based on 2007 returns and that stimulus checks are not likely until May at the earliest.  Looks like it will be BAG day as scheduled with EBR Day to follow shortly thereafter.

Durham68 | 2/8/2008 07:30 AM CDT | #112234


It’s still before the election. We need the PSH before the election. 

cmblake6 | 2/8/2008 07:33 AM CDT | #112235


I was thinking about using my “share” to pick up two, maybe three, AR receivers.  The parts to build them up ought to be available long after any AWB gets passed.  I’ll probably add in a bit to pick up collapsible stocks for them, too.  And mags, of course.

Damn, just thinking about this is getting me into a panic-buying mood again.  Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.  Last time I felt this way, I picked up enough components to make EBR fodder for a long, long time.

Guncrazy | 2/8/2008 07:51 AM CDT | #112236


If the refunds don’t arrive until May, with Heller oral arguments before the USSC in late March, we could have an expanded list of available toys.  Not likely, but possible there’ll be a decision that wipes out most of the gun law stuff residents of CA, MA, MD, NJ, (and USA) deal with.

jetfxr69 | 2/8/2008 07:54 AM CDT | #112237


jetfxr, the most likely outcome(?) is that we will get a ruling that affirms an individual right but leaves most of the gun laws on the books. And remember, McStain-Swinegold is considered constitutional.....

SDN | 2/8/2008 08:09 AM CDT | #112239


Since I’ve got a Garand on the way from CMP, can I use my money for more ammo for it?  Three more cases of Greek ammo oughta hold me a while.....

Mark D | 2/8/2008 08:15 AM CDT | #112240


I’m thinking multiple AR lowers here, with parts kits, uppers, trigger groups and so forth to follow.  And of course all the eeevvviiilll accessories that cause GFWs to have their PSHs.

The handyman’s layaway plan . . .

‘Berg

Mark B. | 2/8/2008 08:16 AM CDT | #112241


Where I come from when we buy or sell a gun it is “the code of the hills” to toss in a box of shells. 

If someone doesnt know the code of the hills, then as Kim du put it “tell all your friends, pass the word, and start picking out YOUR favorite EBR now.

Ganzer | 2/8/2008 08:30 AM CDT | #112243


The purchase of an AK/SKS is not mandatory, of course, especially if one already has “sufficient” quantities of same in the old safe already.

ANY old EBR will suffice—but it really should be an EBR, and not that new Marlin .308 Express you’ve been drooling over.

Kim du Toit | 2/8/2008 08:35 AM CDT | #112244


And I prefer the 20-rounder mags myself—traded my “issue” 30-rounders for two 20s, as a matter of fact—because of the “range awkwardness thing”, as well as the “heavy” thing.

Kim du Toit | 2/8/2008 08:37 AM CDT | #112245


what’s a reasonable price for an AR-10 ?

kneissl | 2/8/2008 08:37 AM CDT | #112246


Here’s what I can’t figure with this whole tax rebate deal:  if it’s a good thing for the economy for every tax payer to get a $600 rebate one year, wouldn’t a $600 tax cut per taxpayer every year be even better?

Then we could have BAG day and BAEBR day every year!  Anybody know Sarah Brady’s birthday?  I nominate that as BAEBR day.

MMW | 2/8/2008 09:08 AM CDT | #112254


“ANY old EBR will suffice—but it really should be an EBR, and not that new Marlin .308 Express you’ve been drooling over.”

I hope you’ll make an exception in my case. I’ve been waiting for an opportune time to buy a CZ 7.62x39 as a platform to build a 6.5 Grendel and I’ve decided that this is it.
Just a few more of those refund checks would bankroll the entire project.

AlphaDog | 2/8/2008 09:13 AM CDT | #112255


Will do. 
Since I have an AK with almost 1,000 rds I think I’ll add another 1,000 rds and pick up a Sub2000 with a few full-capacity glock mags (17rds?).  Its black, its evil, it folds in half, and it can have a companion pistol.

ILTim | 2/8/2008 09:14 AM CDT | #112257


Way ahead of you....already decided that mine will (along with my dedicated AK fund) buy me 2 AK’s and ammo, and I intend to take a good picture of them and send to Feinstein and Pelosi with a thank you note (unsigned, of course)

Dadx4 | 2/8/2008 09:28 AM CDT | #112258


MMW, 2-6-42.  Good Idea.  (Thanks, Google.  Like I would have given a shit otherwise)

Anybody got ideas on how to sneak the money away from Mrs. Me when she ain’t lookin’?  She bought me 2 pudry huntin’ pieces for the 5th anniversary.  I’ve suggested using ‘my’ portion of the taxes/extra refund for an EBR.  Boy, she had PSH with laughter.  I said, ‘You sure do look happy to about me getting a nice rifle for this year.’ Now she ain’t laughin - or talkin.

Kim, If you’re giving up on discussing politics, maybe a firearms/marital help line:  “Dear Kim.”

Brutus | 2/8/2008 09:32 AM CDT | #112259


Ohhhh...I like BAEBR Day.  I loved reading the books about the elephants as a kid.  His name was Baebr, right?

gandalf23 | 2/8/2008 09:44 AM CDT | #112260


I am trying to decide between an AK 47, Dragunove SVD, Lee Enfield SMLE Mk III #1 and a Mosin-Nagant 91-30, or perhaps an M-1 Garand. 

I kind of like the AK-47 for creating PSH for the GFW’s reason. 
I like the SMLE and Mosin-Nagant idea because I get TWO guns and two bayonets and I currently have no mil surplus weapons.
The Dragunove SVD is way cool, looks alone cause PSH, it is good to 1000 yards and shots the same rounds as the Mosin-Nagant so I can later “justify” buying one of them.

The Garand is cool, but I think getting an SMLE and Mosin-Nagant and a few hundred rounds of ammo for each (with cash left over) takes the M-1 out of the race. 

Oh the decisions.

Suggestions are always welcome

Precision | 2/8/2008 09:45 AM CDT | #112261


Oh, you evil, EVIL men! Now I have to bribe Mrs. Odahi to use “her” half for something she wants, so I can have “my” half to get an EBR. I was all set to be responsible and adult about this whole “rebate” thing, and then I read this thread. Yet another reason I come here.

Odahi | 2/8/2008 09:56 AM CDT | #112266


Plan on sinkin’ mine into spare parts, gunsmithing tools and ammo. I know, I know, I know...not glamourous but, for me at any rate, a necessary evil…

Achilles | 2/8/2008 09:58 AM CDT | #112267


Plan on sinkin’ mine into spare parts, gunsmithing tools and ammo. I know, I know, I know...not glamourous but, for me at any rate, a necessary evil…

Achilles | 2/8/2008 09:58 AM CDT | #112268


Then we could have BAG day and BAEBR day every year!  Anybody know Sarah Brady’s birthday?  I nominate that as BAEBR day.

February 6, 1942

princewally | 2/8/2008 10:02 AM CDT | #112269


Well I already have my share of EBR’s, I will be getting a fine .22 hand gun.  Still trying to decide on a revolver or a pistol.  I was thinking of the Taurus pop-up for the lil lady.  Any sugestions are welcome.

SNGLEDAD04 | 2/8/2008 10:05 AM CDT | #112270


My money is not going to a new gun, but to improve the ones I’ve already got.  Hopefully I’ll be “stimulating” a local gunsmith.

Antibubba | 2/8/2008 10:25 AM CDT | #112272


Sorry, Kim ... it’s already allocated to a lever-action, one of the Winchester replicas, probably.

Besides, I already HAVE several EBR’s.........

Prowler | 2/8/2008 10:37 AM CDT | #112273


“I like the SMLE and Mosin-Nagant idea because I get TWO guns and two bayonets and I currently have no mil surplus weapons.”

Have you no shame, man? Young people visit this website.

Kim du Toit | 2/8/2008 10:40 AM CDT | #112274


It’s either all going into reloading components or a Grendel upper because that bastard Doc Russia has one and I have to keep up with him I’ve always wanted one.

(Then again, The Ministress of Finance may have other ideas...)

Moriarty | 2/8/2008 11:22 AM CDT | #112282


Century Arms AK PISTOL in 7.62 x 39, the EBP.

Tallis | 2/8/2008 11:52 AM CDT | #112289


My BAG selection for this year is already an EBR.

I think I may throw this money at some good optics. EOTech or the like.

nobius | 2/8/2008 12:01 PM CDT | #112290


Well, as stated in another thread, I had planned to use ALL of my “stimulus” check to buy 7.62x39. However, I also stated that if we could get a movement going to something else (EBR or the like) that I would jump on board with both feet. So, here I am jumping on board.

As soon as the check arrives I will be driving to Prescott to visit J&G;Sales to buy another AK47 and as many mags as the check will allow. I will match the amount of the “stimulus” check with my own hard earned coin and use that to buy ammo to feed my new friend.

Thanks Kim for getting this rolling. I hope lots of your readers spread the news and participation in this movement grows enough to get the attention of our elected masters. Let the PSH begin.............

The Quiet Man | 2/8/2008 12:05 PM CDT | #112291


Well, let’s see:
a) Tuition for 2 kids in college/private school.
b) Mortgage payment.
c) Student loan.
d) Water pump falling off Jeep.
e) 3 credit cards - $15,000.

Soooo, I’m think’n a Yugo SKS and an M1 Garand.

Yup.

FlintlockTom | 2/8/2008 12:08 PM CDT | #112292


I’m gonna use mine to get my Michigan CPL,pay a bill,and buy oodles of ammo.

franxredhot | 2/8/2008 12:10 PM CDT | #112293


Those considering an AR platform rifle might want to think about putting the money toward purchase of a LWRC SABR rifle in 7.62mm.  This may soon be the .308 AR by which others are measured.

Kim, how did you see me droolong over that .308 Marlin?

Infidel | 2/8/2008 12:45 PM CDT | #112297


Yes, MOriarty; I *am* a bastard. I already have the low end EBR in the form of an SKS model D (it takes AK mags), and I am completing the high end EBR in the form of a 6.5 Grendel AR. I am not really sure there is annother EBR that I want. Well, maybe if I find a .45 caliber EBR that accepts double stack mags sold as an SBR. Otherwise, I may just spend the money on getting set up for reloading.
Decisions, decisions, decisions......

doc Russia | 2/8/2008 12:49 PM CDT | #112298


I realize that at current prices, Mini-14s are a damned poor deal compared to various Com-Bloc SKS and AK variants, but I noticed (from http://www.gunblast.com - 2008 SHOT Show coverage) that Ruger will be once again selling 20-round factory magazines to civilians, FWIW.

CC

CrunchyCon | 2/8/2008 01:17 PM CDT | #112301


Have you no shame, man? Young people visit this website.

Compared to some of you folks, I am “young people”.  And cut me some slack, my arsenal is being rebuilt after living in Guilliani’s shrine to the 2A for 10+ years.

So I guess I have a few months to figure out which way to fall on this issue.

Any suggestions on getting a decently accurate SMLE and Mosin-Nagant.  I am kind of concerned that at prices between $200-300 and $75 - $150 respectively, I am looking at shot out barrels at best.

I don’t buy guns to “collect them” I buy them to shoot them and a gun that doesn’t shoot straight is worthless.  Well not worthless, but certainly no fun and worth a lot less (to me).

Precision | 2/8/2008 01:19 PM CDT | #112304


Hmm...then again, the Bushmaster ACR (nee Magpul Masada) is supposed to be on the market in 2Q 2008...A bit more than $600, though.

Guncrazy | 2/8/2008 01:31 PM CDT | #112309


I don’t know if I can get away with (another) EBR, but we’ll see.  If not then ammo and components for certain.  I also have a potentially lucrative ebay sale coming up (if work will ever stop dropping hints about travel to various customers and actually schedules it so I can be sure to be around for the auction) and that opens up the options even more.

Need more .223, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, and .45ACP and want more of everything else

Rich Jordan | 2/8/2008 02:24 PM CDT | #112315


I have a nice collection of AWs. My rebate is going for a Marlin Model 1894C to compliment my Ruger Blackhawk and GP100. I like that .357mag caliber.

TomR | 2/8/2008 02:29 PM CDT | #112316


Kim,

I’ve been reading you site for quite a while, I just now got the gumption to register for comments.  Makes me a newbee I guess.
I agree with your concern over what may happen in ‘09, so I just bought a mini-14 from a dealer on the Guns America site.  It included a scope too, all for $550.00.  While I haven’t gotten my “rebate” check back yet, this is as good a place as any to put it.  BTW: I already have a well modified AR-15 for my EBG.  Quad rail, soft grips, EOTech site and several attachments.  Fun stuff!

MarkHinTexas | 2/8/2008 02:33 PM CDT | #112317


My problem is that, well, I don’t really know what I’m doing.  I’d like to pick up an SKS or a Mosin Nagant, or even a SMLE or an Ishapore Enfield, but when I’ve been to a gun show (and I do enjoy going to them, I may be down at Dulles this weekend), I look at these guns, and all I can really do is say “Well, they’re...rifles.” I don’t know what’s good condition (particularly barrels) or what’s going to be garbage.  I’d rather not drop the $200 on an SKS that’s falling apart.

Phoronus | 2/8/2008 02:34 PM CDT | #112319


I think I’m gonna pick up a .38 snubbie. The last thing I need to complete my armory. And then go pick up several 30 rd mags for my Saiga AK, and a pile of ammo.

Bane | 2/8/2008 02:52 PM CDT | #112321


I don’t know if I can get away with (another) EBR, but we’ll see.

Hm.

There should be enough married types around here to get a representative sample....

How many firearms do you need to have in the collection before the Mistress of Finance gives up on keeping track of them?

rosignol | 2/8/2008 02:56 PM CDT | #112323


TomR:

That’s the “cowboy assault rifle” version.

(My wife’s birthday was yesterday...I bought her a Marlin 1984CB, ‘cause she liked the octagon barrel better.  Goes with her SP101, too.)

Blackwing1 | 2/8/2008 03:06 PM CDT | #112324


Woo-Hoo!  Sounds Great.  Thank you, Dave Ramsey!

bmcgraw | 2/8/2008 03:11 PM CDT | #112326


I think our 2007 returns place us with either the Monbaks or Moetees and not the Dodahs, so ‘da check may not be forthcoming in the Yankchair household. However, I hope to have a few bills leftover after repairing one car with the sale proceeds of another for either a 7.62x39 AR upper, EO Tech, or perhaps even a Noveske Recon upper. For me, and probably most of us, political exigences have definitely made 2008 the “Year of the EBR”.

Yankchair | 2/8/2008 04:03 PM CDT | #112329


Yankchair,

Believe it or not, I bought a used EOTech on eBay for $185.00.  Works fine, lasts a long time!

MarkHinTexas | 2/8/2008 04:18 PM CDT | #112330


Anyone have recommendations for an EBR in Kalifornia?  The only SKS I can find is a junky, dirty, modified Yugo for $250.  I may have to bite the ‘er bullet and get an M1A I suppose.  However, 7.62x39 is so much cheaper on the wallet.  A Saiga perhaps?

velojunkie | 2/8/2008 04:35 PM CDT | #112332


I’ve sent an email to the ak-103.com guys, who convert Russki Saigas to more AK-ish configurations, asking for some prices (the website is basically a list of items followed by ‘$call’).

Has anyone dealt with these guys?

rosignol | 2/8/2008 04:59 PM CDT | #112335


Ah I wish I could use my refund to by an EBR, but I’m afraid I’m going to have to put it in my Barret fund. Those things don’t come cheap.

grayburst | 2/8/2008 05:21 PM CDT | #112338


What exactly would qualify you for a tax refund? I know I’ve been living under 10k for a long time(5 years) and I’m not gonna pay too much in taxes from last year due to the Poor College Student status.

But if I do receive one, I will have to buy an EBR, seeing as I had to sell my last EBR last week(once again, due to the PCS status). I have been thinking about getting an AK-47 to replace it, but recently I gained interest in an RPK. Not sure where I can buy one but if an AK causes a PSH, a larger AK with a bipod would surely cause the Brady’s to have a heart attack. Plus I was an Auto-Rifleman for the majority of my time in the military, so it makes sense(though it wouldn’t be full auto of course).

I have exactly 18 firearms on my “to buy” list, though only 3 would be on the previous ban’s list. The rest of the “refund” would go towards student loans.

Muddogg | 2/8/2008 05:44 PM CDT | #112340


Precision
If you are looking at a M-N for shooting the Finn’s M39 is great.  Just got one at the latest gun show (three wks ago) and it is not quite as good as the Swede M96, but only by about 10% and the Swedes have outstanding rep for accuracy.  Now if only these old eyes could see better???
As to the EBR looked at the local gun shop and Jim wants to much for the WASR10, even if it is loaded with accessories, $500 would be within the rebate but not leave much for ammo since none in 7.63x39 as yet.  Of course one of the guy’s at work is looking to score a trio of AK-74s, one for each would work just fine and ammo cheaper.  That would leave the 47 or SKS for BAG. Now just have to stay out of the desert long enough to enjoy.

OBTW the FInn was easy, took spouse and bought her a Walther P22 since"Your guns are to bug and this fits my hand better” One way to even the count


fullerm | 2/8/2008 06:03 PM CDT | #112342


I think I’ll be sinking my refund into finishing my eeeeevil “sniper rifle”. And I really must thank the government for allowing me to upgrade to a McMillan stock, which I thought would be out of my price range.

aplaceinspace | 2/8/2008 06:29 PM CDT | #112344


Akshully that’ll likely be wife-unit’s and my $#@%^ gas prices travelling money for this summer’s semi-annual east coast jaunt to see moi’s family and east coast grandkids.

On another note, there’s a gun show in town this weekend (prolly as lame as the last one though I intend to visit on Saturday instead of at the last minute on Sunday, like last time, so mebbe something will call out ‘buy me, buy me, BUY ME YOU #%@^&^ CHEAPSKATE BASTAGE!!!’

BTW, host-type person, ya really need to get on that Boer War novel, I know it’s in there somewhere…



yahyah ibn alli | 2/8/2008 06:37 PM CDT | #112346


Hmm.

5.45 AK?

Jered | 2/8/2008 06:54 PM CDT | #112348


I’m w Louis. Have fun with the redistribution of wealth. Look, I know we didn’t ask for it, and guns are always good. But if it’s a handout, y’all can’t really bitch if the Great Unwashed use it to buy Mad Dog and cocaine. And vote Democrat. Forever.
Fair taxation now!

N5 | 2/8/2008 07:15 PM CDT | #112349


Hmmm, maybe some more 20 rd Saiga .308 mags from http://fbmg.com. Those are really nice. Got one, works sweet. More of those and ammo to fill them! And more x39! Yeah!

cmblake6 | 2/8/2008 07:29 PM CDT | #112350


Put a SAR-1 AK on layway at lunch. $300 plus tax, I just could not wait. Bought 10 Romanian 30 round steel mags from AIM Surplus when I got back to the office. I should have the gun before the “rebate” comes in but I plan to backfill. Then I’ll see about picking up a couple thousand rounds of ammo and probably another EBR.

My plan is to spend as much of the whee!-bate as possible on anything that is likely to be banned or restricted. I predict the ROI of an AK will far exceed the market the way things are going. If I’m wrong, I’ll have more guns… Is there a downside???

John

iainmcphersn | 2/8/2008 09:47 PM CDT | #112354


Since I have an SKS and an AR15, I think I am set for EBRs for the time being. I still need a decent concealed carry pistol, since the XD is too big for me to carry comfortably. Unless I have an opportunity to get one through a private sale..... Of course I could use it get the rest of my reloading supplies, as I have not purchased any dies, tumbler, powder or primers.

Or, if I follow suggestion Draven gave me - get some uppers in different calibers so I can use the AR more often. Of course with Darth Wife facing a possibility of her contract not being renewed, it makes more sense to do the responsible thing and pay down some debts.

jonnjonnzz | 2/8/2008 10:25 PM CDT | #112355


Velojunkie:
I’m in the same boat, er perhaps I should say, the same Kommie State.

In my case, that $600 would put me over the top to buy the Springfield M1A Scout I’ve been drooling over for the past five years.

In Kommiefornia, the best you’re going to do is a nice Yugo SKS with the grenade launcher removed or welded for around $250 to $300.  The rest should go to 7.62x39 on stripper clips.

Good luck!

First Cav

First Cav | 2/8/2008 10:35 PM CDT | #112356


Just to stoke the fires:
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Galil_Sporter_.223_Rifle.html
a $700 EBR folder with a piston system in .223

doc Russia | 2/9/2008 12:18 AM CDT | #112358


Would an order for a CMP IBM M1 carbine count?
They are opening up the sale of them in Oct 08 - As a computer geek I have to get an IBM....

If not the $600 should cover the street price of a Thompson AOM160 (M1 carbine with a Choate pistol grip folding stock) or make a nice down payment on The True EBR the 1927 A1 Tommygun
Talk about PSH

BAG day gun has already been decided/planned for: Marlin 1894C

kckunz | 2/9/2008 01:50 AM CDT | #112359


I’ve been thinking of putting it towards this.

But, with ammo at 65 bucks for a box of 20, maybe not.  I just think rifles like this will be among the first to go under President Hildabeast or Hussein.  Gotta say, those Grendel uppers Moriarty and Doc mentioned look appealing, too.  And cheaper.
What do do, what to do.....

baboy | 2/9/2008 07:01 AM CDT | #112361


N5 said:


I’m w Louis. Have fun with the redistribution of wealth. Look, I know we didn’t ask for it, and guns are always good. But if it’s a handout, y’all can’t really bitch if the Great Unwashed use it to buy Mad Dog and cocaine. And vote Democrat. Forever.

Yes, it’s a handout.  But they are handing some of our money, taken at threat of force, back to us.  The fact that we will be spending it on something the .gov hates just makes it all the sweeter.  Remember, once the new Pres and Dem Congress are settled, the handouts will increase exponentially, but you and I won’t be seeing a penny of it (except as it flies out of our paychecks and into .gov coffers), and the opportunity to purchase guns like these will forever be lost.  You think they’ll allow a sunset provision this time?
Which reminds me: someone (too lazy to scroll up and see who; how pathetic am I?) said they’d just buy AR lowers and build them up later as the uppers would not dry up.  Whatcha wanna bet that they fix that this time?  Dems are assholes; no one said they couldn’t learn and adapt.

Fair taxation now!

Roger that!  Have you read the new Fairtax book by Boortz?

baboy | 2/9/2008 07:08 AM CDT | #112362


I’m in - but it’ll be for tools, reloading components, and MAYBE a varmint upper w/scope for my existing Bushmaster lower.

Nothing says indiscriminate slaughter like a free-floating, fluted, chrome lined, 24"barrel with BLACK furniture.

I have 1200 rounds of Bulgarian light ball on the way from Florida Gun Works.  That almost fulfills the dictum “have a sealed case for every weapon”.

We haven’t looked yet, but feel that we are going to end up on the “sorry, you are too productive” list.

TmjUtah | 2/9/2008 09:31 AM CDT | #112380


I guess I`ll have to ponder for awhile....I have a selection of SKS`S & (2) AK`S so I might have to go for some commercial weapon. Incidently , I hope your secured SKS purchase is an original Russian one .....I picked up (2) several years back when they were reasonable in cost , one was from 1951 “$129.95” with a regular wood stock & was arsenal refurbished....it is a good shooter.  The other is from 1954 “$149.95” which came with a laminated stock , high polish/gloss attached bayonet & barrel. I do not think it was ever issued, & I still have not fired it.

dudley1 | 2/9/2008 04:19 PM CDT | #112410

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