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March 24, 2007
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Britain should join the US as the 51st state. It would be the most powerful state in the union. Be glad to have you.

Errrrr nazzo fast with the welcome mat, buddy.

If Britain were composed entirely of Stout Bulldogs like Mr. Free Market, The Englishman, David Copperfield and Richard Branson (to name only some of the more famous ones), I’d be the first to offer a welcoming cup of tea. Sadly, however, they’re not. Greatly outnumbering the Bulldogs, however, are the loathsome Commies like Mayor of London “Red Ken” Livingstone and Budget Boss Gordon Brown; slimy neo-socialists like the disgusting Tony and Cherie Blair; hotbeds of wealth-envious Marxism like the Guardian newspaper and Scotland; and finally, the place is crawling with chav scum and welfare-dependent lowlifes.

Now, if we could somehow annex Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, Dorset and Wiltshire, and make them collectively the 51st state, I’d be willing to give it a shot. Hell, I’d even offer to trade Massachusetts for those counties—about the same size, geographically—which would keep us at the aesthetically-pleasing round number of 50 states (no flag redesign necessary, either).

Of course, we’d have to wall off the new state of Old England from the rest of Britistan, but the distance is no greater than the average east Wyoming ranch’s boundaries, so no problems there. Hell, the locals could probably foot the bill themselves, just out of their first year’s income tax savings.

What would those counties bring to the party which would make them worth the effort? Here are just a few.

1.) Bases for future airstrikes against France Frankistan. (That should be the clincher, right there.)

2.) Wonderful beer and some of the best pubs in the world.

3.) A place for us Yanks to leave our guns en route if we decided to visit Londonistan.

4.) Fox hunting (which would once again be permitted, no question).

5.) A new state capital, which, in keeping with our existing state capitals, would be located in the most disgusting city in the area (the locals can vote on which place qualifies). Certainly, it would not be in a beautiful city like Bath or Falmouth.

6.) Unfettered travel between Old England and the United States (and unfettered access for them to our job markets too).

7.) Two words: Wiltshire bacon.

8.) More small-c conservatives in Old England than there are Liberal Rubbish in Massachusetts. (I’m really starting to warm to this “toss Massachusetts” idea.)

Of course, the newly-minted U.S. citizens would have to learn to drive on the “right” (literally) side of the road, but as most of their damn country roads are single-lane affairs anyway, it shouldn’t be too difficult a change to master. Anyway, we could always replace their LH-drive Range Rovers with U.S.-made Ford Explorers and Chevy Blazers. (They would have to get used to pieces falling off after only 25,000 miles instead of after 500 miles, though. And their cars would stand much more than a 50% chance of starting every morning.)

They’d also have to use dollars instead of sterling, but then again, they would have had to get used to using euros anyway, sooner or later.

Then they’d have to renounce that “allegiance to the Queen” thing, which (to their credit) may be difficult for some Bulldogs to swallow. Hmmm… maybe we could postpone the annexation until after HRH Queen Elizabeth passes away—I can’t see too many Bulldogs caring about being loyal to Green Prince Charlie. (And speaking of whom, he’d have to give up the Duchy of Cornwall: I suggest we give him, oh, Cape Cod in exchange; and serve them both right.)

All that “title” stuff would become meaningless, of course, which may come as a wrench to some. However, the greatly-reduced tax burden should sweeten the blow.

And of course, the new citizens of Old England could own pretty much whatever and as many guns as they wanted, without licensing. (The silencers, unfortunately, might have to go—but give us a few months to work on that one.)

They’d have two Senators in Congress (I nominate The Englishman and Captain Haddock), and quite a few representatives in the House.

Any other issues come to mind, Readers?




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  1. If the two senators from Massachussettes go with the deal, I’m on board! Git ‘r done!

    John

    Author ID: 167 | 3/24/2007 04:58 AM CST | #84621
  2. Nah… Don’t need “Mum” hanging around the house pointing and ordering people about…

    Best to get her an flat of her own.  Make sure she is safe and that her eccentricities don’t get dangerous. 

    If I have anyone building a house next door, younger brothers are handy to have around… I’d take the Aussies - they’d have to ditch that national bout of hopolophobia… but I haven’t met any Australians that I haven’t gotten along with, and other than their tendency to drive on the wrong side of the road… they seem to be about the best friend you could have in the world.

    Not sneezing at Mum mind you… just that she IS a pill and a half… Gotta lover her though.

    Her Majesty and assorted royals are making the trip to Jamestown and Williamsburg for the 400th Anniversary of the Founding of Jamestown.  So the embodiment of Mum will be visiting the Old Dominion.  It is going to be an interesting Spring.

    r/TMF

    Author ID: 8618 | 3/24/2007 05:17 AM CST | #84622
  3. I just rolled out of bed (er...well, the couch, really) and read this while I was waking up.  At some point, I started to get really excited, as if this were going to be happening tomorrow.  Unfortunately, as reality and wakefulness increased, I eventually had to tell myself, “Damn, it was only a nice dream.”

    Author ID: 1233 | 3/24/2007 05:21 AM CST | #84623
  4. A 5 year “relaxation” of cheese export rules should apply to the fledgling state.

    Author ID: 2334 | 3/24/2007 05:58 AM CST | #84625
  5. Maybe we could just sell Massachussetts on Ebay......lock, stock, and Barrel shaped Kennedy’s and all.  (sorry, sold “as is” with no refunds)

    Author ID: 8640 | 3/24/2007 05:58 AM CST | #84626
  6. Can’t we just annex the Red States to the old Kingdom of Wessex, we could then declare war again on Mercia, stop paying the Danegeld and restore the traditional Liberties of Free Born Englishmen.

    Author ID: 293 | 3/24/2007 06:06 AM CST | #84628
  7. The bids would never get above the minimum acceptable…

    And the most attractive parts… John Adams’s home and the USS Constitution would have to be secured before excision.  Since Constitution is a commissioned navy ship, she could be stationed in a real state like Virginia… Maybe right next to the USS Wisconsin.

    Quincey well… not sure of what to do there… kind of tough to move a farm.

    Sad, Massechusetts was the norther seat of the Revolution.  How far things fall… damnYankees… ruin everything, they do.  mad

    r/TMF

    Author ID: 8618 | 3/24/2007 06:06 AM CST | #84629
  8. Kim, you KNOW you have my blessing. This is the best idea I’ve heard in a long time. I’d gladly volunteer my time building the new international border fence on our southern border here in New Hampshire.

    Author ID: 7657 | 3/24/2007 06:24 AM CST | #84632
  9. Author ID: 8544 | 3/24/2007 06:31 AM CST | #84633
  10. I agree with TMF.  Joining up with Australia would be GREAT. I have yet to meet an Australian I didn’t like.  I chat with a number of them on the Internet, and have met some of them in person. Really grand folks who still have a sense of spirit and can-do-ism.

    Author ID: 7729 | 3/24/2007 06:39 AM CST | #84635
  11. Kim,
    Ok, while there is millions of reasons to bash Massachusetts in the modern era, its history still stands as perhaps the single most important reason not to abandon her. Liberty was born here, but it just moved away. As a subject, born and raised here, and not ever going to leave, I just wanted you to know that there are plenty of folks of like mind here, who secretely want to usher in a new conservative rebirth.  Rather than the mass exodus (no pun intended), and the bashing, why not acknowledge those of us who stay, stand and fight, for those things we hold near and dear. After all, we have our history, though long, long ago, to guide us forward. You know, if it did ever happen here, it may be the clarion call to signal that it could happen anywhere.  Till then, we’ll man the ramparts…

    Author ID: 9709 | 3/24/2007 06:58 AM CST | #84637
  12. As a transplanted Englishman, I agree Kim, but you will have to weed out the benefit junkies in your chosen area first - there’s plenty of them. Some are not all that stupid - if the State is going to support you anyway, why not somewhere nice. Perhaps a sort of prisoner exchange with residents of the rest of the country who pass muster.
    Now to banish the Kennedy clan to Red Ken’s heartland, that’s really a thought to start the day on!!

    Author ID: 9719 | 3/24/2007 07:33 AM CST | #84640
  13. Bomb the BBC and end any State sponsorship of the media.

    The final broadcast should say something like “We full admit that we are a pack of Lefty farts, and you’ll not be burdened by our rubbish from here on.  Cheerio!”

    Author ID: 2166 | 3/24/2007 07:36 AM CST | #84642
  14. Joking about Bombing the BBC, of course.  The buildings should really be converted into a multi-level shooting range.

    smile

    Author ID: 2166 | 3/24/2007 07:49 AM CST | #84643
  15. My mother in law is born and raised English, and she assures me that many of the Brits wouldn’t bat an eye at the loss of the Royal Family, especially since the Queen Mum passed away in 2002. Of course there may be some gnashing and wailing once they realize just how much English Loot is held by them.

    Author ID: 7560 | 3/24/2007 08:02 AM CST | #84645
  16. You would want to extend the border North a bit to take in Gloucestershire and Shropshire, then East taking in Warwick with its castle and over to the coast, annexing Lincolnshire and Norfolk.
    You could also usefully add on much of Lancashire and Yorkshire (leaving out Leeds and Bradford)
    Bit of a funny shape, but then we could invade the rest and evict the chavs, dole scroungers and anyone named abdul or mohamed.
    Finally, anyone named Kennedy coming to visit would be unceremoniously shown the borders, preferably by being thrown in the channel with a brick tied round their neck.

    Author ID: 7404 | 3/24/2007 08:13 AM CST | #84646
  17. I’m not sure how you’d handle it, but I’m in, yeah. The bridge is gonna cost a bundle. Wait, maybe they still got those TBM’s from the chunnel. Suppose those would work under the grand banks?

    Author ID: 112 | 3/24/2007 08:25 AM CST | #84647
  18. No BGrigg, you’re wrong, we all love the Royal Family, who are a durn sight harder working, and CHEAPER than the politicians, whose only serious efforts are made in their own interests. People keep trotting out the old chestnut about how much the Royals cost, but any thinking person knows well that they are a HUGE net asset to the country. How many of you have been to Buckingham Palace or Windsor Castle, and how many would go if the ghastly Tony & Chereee were in residence?

    Author ID: 9719 | 3/24/2007 08:31 AM CST | #84648
  19. Robert,

    Sorry, but the borders go no further. The further north you go, the exponential rise in Marxist sympathizers makes it a no-no.

    We already have cities full of shit and Commies, thank you. And the thought of adding thousands of Man U. supporters to the Republic kinda turns my stomach.

    Next thing you’d want us to annex Wales as well… ugh.

    0 Author ID: 1 | 3/24/2007 08:36 AM CST | #84649
  20. How about Sussex?

    Would you give up both Southampton and the Bognor Birdman festival?

    Author ID: 9457 | 3/24/2007 08:51 AM CST | #84650
  21. Sorry, Kim;

    I gotta go with Jonny Rocco on this one. For all it’s CURRENT faults (too long a list for THIS rant!), MA is the HOME of the US of A, and if you think FOR ONE SECOND you’re giving THAT away without a fight, then let’s at it!
    On the OTHER hand, if you just want to deport Wide-Load and the Hyannisport Clan, well, then, why didntcha SAY so? Here, lemme help ya with that crowbar - or as we called it in the USAF, in Air Cargo parlance, that ‘J-Bar’.
    I figure a coupla C-17’s will get him and his peckerwoods outta Massachusetts, then we can go back, grab airy-fairy Kerry and HIS gang of fools, and ship ALL the New England idiots OUT.\
    Hey, maybe we can get Robert, the Englishman, and the rest of the good guys as a trade? Y’know, kinda like swapping Mike Mussina for Sidney Ponson, or something like that?

    And LAY OFF US YANKEES!

    See ya!

    Jim

    Author ID: 8889 | 3/24/2007 10:13 AM CST | #84656
  22. what about sealand?

    Author ID: 8945 | 3/24/2007 10:18 AM CST | #84657
  23. Kim, not a bad idea in general, but, the geography doesn’t work out.  How about we trade the OCCUPANTS of Old England for most of the occupants of New England.  Straight up trade, we can arrange to have the pubs shipped across. After we get rid of most of my watermelon neighbors here in the greatly lamented Massachusetts and their fellow travelers in Vermont and the ones that have snuck across the border into NH there will be plenty of room for them.

    Lot easier than moving Cape Cod (which is really quite nice without those folk like my in-laws that think Kennedy, Frank, et al are just the best thing) . Move them to Londonistan, I’m sure they’ll approve of Ken.

    Author ID: 7546 | 3/24/2007 10:55 AM CST | #84660
  24. I will stick-up for my native land of Massachusetts a little bit.  Simply cut away the eastern third of the state (say along Rt. 128) and you have a beautiful, moderately conservative state.  New Jersey would also benefit from the same treatment.

    Author ID: 8662 | 3/24/2007 11:02 AM CST | #84661
  25. An old Gunnery Sergeant I served with who was a Federal Marshall in the civilian world had a theory about cities.  In his opinion, any city adjacent to a large body of water turns into a corrupt crap-hole eventually.  New York, Baltimore, Boston, Miami, Los Angeles, and Chicago – he had to hunt down scumbags in all of them. 

    The places he recommended such as Indianapolis and San Antonio were all well away from large bodies of water.  He never explained why water has this affect and I forgot to ask – I was more interested in the .45 Mac-10 he kept in the door of his car in case of attack.

    Author ID: 8662 | 3/24/2007 11:04 AM CST | #84663
  26. Hey, what’s wrong wth Wales?

    Author ID: 6138 | 3/24/2007 11:09 AM CST | #84664
  27. Full of Welsh?

    Author ID: 293 | 3/24/2007 12:28 PM CST | #84666
  28. Having the “mother country” become a state of its former offspring goes beyond incestuous all the way to Oedipal. Ewwwwww !

    Author ID: 8050 | 3/24/2007 12:29 PM CST | #84667
  29. I’d take exception to the anti-Welsh stuff… since I am roughly 1/4 (Davis) but it is old American Welsh (ancestors came over here in the 1730’s).  AND my paternal Grandmother was a serious piece of work… blank stare

    As to the damnYankees… I’ll lay off when they start being Americans, again.  They roll over and play dead so much that one wonders how they stay out of the morgue. Remember my mother is from Kingson, NY and her brother is one year from wrapping up at IBM… so he announced to the family that he is looking for a nice retirement place in southeastern Virginia, or he really likes Charleston, SC.  All of those golf courses are hard to ignore for a man who spends a small fortune on custom made clubs and such.

    r/TMF

    Author ID: 8618 | 3/24/2007 01:03 PM CST | #84670
  30. Kim: We’d have to pick Plymouth as the state capital, I think. It ranks pretty high up on the ugliness scale. Although on second thoughts, Swindon is in your proposed state, too…

    We’ll gladly bring the pubs (and the brewers), and provide some education in the difference between cellar temperature and “cold”.

    The Royals could be a bit of a sticking point, though. I’d happily ditch Messrs. Blair, Brown and Cameron, but Her Majesty would have to actively support the idea, which she wouldn’t. I’ve got a bit of a soft spot for Charlie, too - he’s a daft bugger, but his heart is in the right place (shame about his brain, really).

    Author ID: 2382 | 3/24/2007 01:10 PM CST | #84671
  31. I think Milton Keynes is outside your proposed bounds - but it if it were in play I have no doubt it would win any “most ugly city” contest in a walk.

    It takes the worst of 60’s era city planning from the US and adds all sorts of British embellishments.  The city center is a sterile urban desert that loses most of what little life it does have at 5 PM.

    A former employer had their British office there (since we normally visited customers rather than the reverse, they went for “cheap and modern” office space).  Fortunately, when we visited England we usually spent the time working with our customers in more civilized places like Cambridge.

    Author ID: 9280 | 3/24/2007 02:40 PM CST | #84675
  32. I like th Queen. The rest of the royals, though—meh, put ‘em on a raft and set them adrift in the North Sea.

    Author ID: 6997 | 3/24/2007 04:59 PM CST | #84680
  33. I have a hard time being too hard on a kid demanding the right to go to Iraq.

    Author ID: 8518 | 3/24/2007 10:45 PM CST | #84683
  34. Hmmmm...I thought Canadians were already called 51st Stater’s?????

    Author ID: 8339 | 3/24/2007 11:42 PM CST | #84686
  35. Rich irony here. I could really, really see the “United Kingdom” (or any part thereof) being accepted as a “United State”.

    When Mecca becomes a sister city to Las Vegas, or when Hell freezes over, whichever comes first.

    Author ID: 940 | 3/25/2007 06:37 AM CST | #84688
  36. Guys, there are some of us in the “Marxist hell” of Scotland who would welcome a little “regime change” if it brings us the things we’ve been denied for so long - stuff like, y’know, liberty, democracy, the free market…

    Author ID: 9804 | 3/25/2007 07:05 AM CST | #84690
  37. I have to agree with NJSoldier here - there ARE still conservatives and libertarians in MA; we’re just horribly outnumbered by Cambridge & Boston. I’d say that just airlifting Beacon Hill with it’s corrupt politicos (and of course, the Kennedy compound down on the Cape) should give us enough of a chance to clean house.

    If you really decide the MA has to go, carving off the inside of Rt 128 will leave a mostly red state.

    Author ID: 7890 | 3/25/2007 07:20 AM CST | #84691
  38. I don’t think statehood for other countries with their own long history and traditions is a good idea.  Getting rid of Massachusetts is an apealling idea, but I’d rather see it regain it’s traditional liberties.  Perhaps we could work out a different sort of arrangement that could include the other English seaking nations.  In exchange for them adopting our bill of rights, including the second amendment, they could get membership in the American Commonwealth, with full freedom of migration for individual citizens.

    Author ID: 566 | 3/25/2007 08:50 AM CST | #84693
  39. Y’know, there was a reason I used to go by the monicker “51st State"… Kim’s got a point about diluting the voting pool, but I’ve always seen projects like this as a chance to *restore* the traditional liberties to our benighted forebears. The book 51st State, by Peter Preston always struck me as enjoyable reading, too. (Of course, in that scenario, England was 51st, while Scotand, Wales, Northern Ireland and Ireland took the total to 55.)

    Having spent 6 years living east of Rt. 128, I will decline commenting on red v. blue Massachusetts, for now, other than to say it’s not QUITE that simple: the Amherst area, for one, is a blue hole in a red doughnut, so to speak…

    Author ID: 9505 | 3/25/2007 10:32 AM CST | #84695
  40. Do you really want to give the Democrats a permanent 3 seats in the Senate?

    Author ID: 8647 | 3/25/2007 10:33 AM CST | #84696
  41. Only caveat is fox hunting. Sorry, can’t go with that one. What do you have against foxes, anyway ? Just think, the foxes are like the rare conservative to be found in London ! They’re smart, run alone and usually make fools of the packs of hounds ( i.e. liberals ) that infest that city ! It takes MANY horses, riders and hounds to chase and sometimes catch ONE fox ! When they DO catch that admirable fox, they do disgusting things to it ! What American wouldn’t support the ..umm...underdog, ( underfox ? ) in these circumstances ?

    cool smile

    Ray C
    p.s. Been gone a long time Kim ; lovely to be back !

    Author ID: 9806 | 3/25/2007 11:25 AM CST | #84697
  42. (Of course, in that scenario, England was 51st, while Scotand, Wales, Northern Ireland and Ireland took the total to 55.)

    Man, concealed carry in Dublin.  Now that’d be nice smile

    Author ID: 2166 | 3/25/2007 11:28 AM CST | #84698
  43. “Guys, there are some of us in the ‘Marxist hell’ of Scotland who would welcome a little ‘regime change’… ”

    Mr. E,

    It would be easier just to ship the five of you over to Maine.

    0 Author ID: 1 | 3/25/2007 03:36 PM CST | #84704
  44. This runs afoul of my program to trade the New England states for all ofCanada West of Manitoba. We could, of course, bring all the Tories to BC and let the Frogs have the Island.

    Author ID: 9756 | 3/25/2007 06:55 PM CST | #84706
  45. How about the Swiss instead, they are much closer to us on guns, and we would have reps and senators that would want to require all citizens to have select fire rifles in their homes, with no licensing.

    Author ID: 7161 | 3/25/2007 10:20 PM CST | #84708
  46. Swiss citizens are required to keep a gun at home- they are not exercising a right in that sense- and government inpsectors are empowered to enter their home at any time, without notice, to check on the weapon and ammunition. This is not actually very close to the American sense of the right to keep and bear arms.

    Author ID: 7912 | 3/26/2007 12:12 AM CST | #84709
  47. What about a faithful German Shepherd bitch living in London?

    Can I come too?

    I’ve always wanted to move to Cornwall/Devon/Wiltshire, can run a very good pub, and can use a gun with the best of them wink

    Author ID: 7710 | 3/26/2007 02:40 AM CST | #84711
  48. Hongkonger,

    Actually, Americans are required to do the same.  It is a requirement that has been forgotten or been unenforced.  U.S. Code requires that all men, ages 17 to 46 be “trained and equipped” to be called into action should the nation need them.

    Our Second Amendment was based on the “Shooting on the Green” concept of the English long bowmen.  The local Lord brought together the men of the village to practice the art of the low bow.  It was learned that a long-bowman needed to start early, say by age 9 or 10, in order to become proficient at the skill.

    Our Founders created a similar setup, whereby the state governors (instead of the local Lord) were responsible for verifying that the men in their towns and villages were similarly regulated (ready for action).

    The local town folk were expected to call together the citizen militias for practice and inspection of arms (exactly as the Swiss do today).  But back then folks wouldn’t have regarded an inspection by the local magistrate as an invasion of rights.  They understand that the Second Amendment conferred both a right and a duty.

    Sadly, far too many people have come to view the government as something different from ourselves, and that sort of inspection as an invasion of rights, rather than the verification that we, as a nation, were prepared in the event of an emergency.

    0 Author ID: 2 | 3/26/2007 04:13 AM CST | #84712
  49. A new state capital, which, in keeping with our existing state capitals, would be located in the most disgusting city in the area

    Did they start out as disgusting cities, or become so after the politicos moved in?

    Author ID: 8007 | 3/27/2007 09:12 AM CST | #84868

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